Quote Originally Posted by Biggin View Post
i hate to agree with Timmay, but I do think VY is better than people give him credit for. Until now with the emergence of Kenny Britt, they had maybe the worst WR corp in the NFL. But VY was still able to make plays and put points on the board.

He should not be expected to be a 300 yards a game passer, but he has def. picked up more of the offense and is now somewhat able to make the right read and not throw as many picks.

VY is not a top 10 QB, or even a top 15, but he is a winner and has that mojo.
that mojo makes up so much for me, a QB that can will a team to win means so much for a team
The WR comments are horse****. Collins did more than VY has with the same receivers. It's strange when the "emergence of Kenny Britt" happened too. Right when Collins comes in and VY goes out. Send that same group of WR's to Indy and 2 of them are over 1000 yards. I'm not expecting him to be a 300 yard a game passer, but don't you think he should be doing better than 124 a game? I'm not really saying he's garbage, I'm saying he's sorrier than **** and doesn't work enough to be good. He'd rather be dancing with other guys shirtless in gay bars and riding around acting like a nut pretending he's going to kill himself.

"but he has def. picked up more of the offense and is now somewhat able to make the right read and not throw as many picks."

I'd freaking hope he's picked up some of the offense by now and be somewhat able to make the right read. He's been in the league for 5 years now. He has 2 more INT's than TD passes, 24 more fumbles than TD runs, even though he's not a top 15 qb he still needs to have the dedication to be decent. My problem is more that than anything. It's an effort problem I have with him.